Monday, October 22, 2007

Must We Be Careful What We Wish For?

Imagine a time in the future when a major disease like cancer is cured. I know it's a long way off, if at all, partially because some of these things are genetic and DNA is not easily reprogrammed.

Cancer is one of the major killers of mankind. Without it, and with more people living longer, population control will become a much greater issue than it is now. So how will we deal with that? More widespread (even government mandated) use of birth control? Child limits, a la China's one child policy? More wars? Rebirth during the fiery ritual of Carousel? Colonizing other planets? Involuntary euthanasia? Something we haven't thought of yet? Tell me your ideas.

14 comments:

she said...

bogshond, isnt it funny how the gummit wants to tax cigarettes but then want everyone not to smoke (and rightly so) and sues the tabacco giants... but then where will the tax revenue come from and where will the needed deaths come from? i mean you need smokers and fatty meat eaters to eat croak and make room for new blood. right? grrherhaha

i think the planet cleanses itself with a superbug every so often..plagues, bird flus....pandemics. if the earth is a giant organism them that would be a natural "cleansing" cycle that occurs when necessary.

we will always work to alleviate human sufferring and we should but it will never be eliminated and that is also a kind of natural order.

ive never liked the colonization of other planets idea. i like it here on earth.

remember that movie logans run...the mandatory euthanizing yourself at thirty...the little gem on your hand lights up and the death police makes you go to the ceremony where you joined the great beyond. that scared the crap out of me...the idea of it....i see some aspects of euthanasia gaining popularity ..ideas about quality of life. interesting post and much to consider.

Pete Bogs said...

she - I had a high school psych teacher who said that a war is needed every generation or so to thin out humanity... not sure if he was serious, but that set me on the notion that birth control (rather than killing that which already lives) was a smart thing... yes it's still taboo for so many, even places where the population is starving...

I have indeed seen Logan's Run... didn't you notice my reference to "rebirth during the fiery ritual of Carousel?" that scene scared me, too, though if you watch it now the wires holding the "levitating" people are clearly visible... I never understood why they wouldn't let people "run," since it would've helped the overpopulation problem of the domed city... others have said it was a parallel to religion, as the rebirth thing was about faith (essentially, believing you would "renew" - or be reincarnated) after your death... whereas, runners were people without faith in the hereafter... and having them simply leave the city might be "reason," but that conflicts with faith for some...

Jack K. said...

You do ask some deep questions.

I hear that the folks living in the Atlanta, GA area are fast approaching the issue of NO water. Maybe it is just a myth. Some people think so, for they continue to water their lawns.

Didn't see the films.

Not sure I missed much.
ttfn

Aunty Belle said...

Bawgs, I done jes' seen some history channel thang on how asteroids hit the earth and release new bacteria and viruses...so we's gonna be culled on way or t'other.

WHAT??? Doan even *think* of colonizin' other planets! Why, darlin' them Algore police will take back yore Ignobel Piece Prize iffin' ya takes yore filthy human bugs wif ya' and go to wipin' out the whole civilization of Themango in the Oreo galaxy (just past the Milky Way). Wha was ya' thinkin'??

she said...

jack: indeed we are facing a water shortage. the army corps of engineers pumps 52 million gallons a day from lake lanier downstream for fresh water mussels in north florida...a federal mandate required of us. our lakes look like mud pits. and yet the city builds builds and builds. i believe our govenor is trying to stop this insanity because of the drought....the worst in 100 years here.

my husband spent yesterday diverting the hoses from the washing machine to the yard and installing rainbarrels under our gutters...we are saving graywater for potted plants. anyone caught watering a lawn has their water cut off and its a thousand dollars to get it back on. today, it rained. 1/2 toward the 41" deficit.

bogs im glad you though it (logans run) was scary too....i agree with your take on its meanings with regard to faith and reason...however hokey i found it disturbing!

Bird said...

we put quite a strain on the resources of our planet - they are not infinite - though our population seems to be, doesn't it?

even if it would help - we can't let governments determine who dies and when - that's a private matter. like logan's run - and even soylent green (remember that?) - when an institution starts to dictate such matters - oooh, yeah, that's scary shit.

personally, when i can no longer recognize my children and when i can no longer make love -that's when i grant the government permission to put me down. alas, my wishes won't matter and i'll be kept about in the name of some sort of morality.

she - geesh - drought city there, eh? we are not unaccustomed to drought out here in california - we got precious little rain last year - but who knows what will happen this year - this season. but i well recall this little ditty which prescribes toilet flushing procedure during a drought:

if it's yellow, let it mellow.
if it's brown, flush it down.

the droughts we had during the 70s gave rise to landscaping with indigeous and drought-proof plants. and during our droughts, cars are caked with dust and lawns turn brown.

meanwhile, southern california takes northern california's water - and the grand canyon's as well.

suck it dry, baby, suckit dry.

damn,i'm thirsty now.

but wait - whateverhappened to cancer and dna?

Pete Bogs said...

jack - you could live without seeing Logan's Run...

aunt b - so you're saying that some other mass killer would come along to replace cancer... I think you're probably right... what's wrong with taking our diseases to other planets? as long as they're not already inhabited...

she - ouch! didn't realize the sitaution was that bad... as for Logan, that's how it was explained to me... why didn't they just let people run? it was against religion, as it were...

bird - it's people! soylent green is people! I seem to remember a movie (or was it a Twilight Zone episode?) where the elderly could go somewhere voluntarily to end their lives in a peaceful manner... a scary thought, but maybe only to those who live on afterwards...

Jack K. said...

Isn't there some myth about aged Inuits in Alaska, who paddle out to sea when there "mission" is over?

Pete Bogs said...

jack - it's the tribes putting their elderly out on ice floes, and I don't think it's a myth...

she said...

like dogs do if they can....they go to the woods. i get that...you dont want a bunch of spectators. er at least i dont

Lil Bit said...

Mass vasectomies. lol!

Pete Bogs said...

LB - at last, a feasible suggestion!

Lil Bit said...

Thank ye, sai. heh

Oh yeah, and "hobo broth" cracked me the hell up! LOL

Lil Bit said...

weeeeee! New blogger feature! - get follow-up comments sent to email! - hmmm, wonder who was already doing that on her own? LOL