Friday, April 21, 2006

Sympathy For The Devil II: Hu And Cry

When visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao was introduced before his speech today, the American emcee got the name of his country wrong.

And no, the emcee was not George W. Bush, though he was the co-headliner.

Instead of saying “the People’s Republic of China,” the sucka emcee said, “the Republic of China,” which actually refers to Taiwan and not the mainland. Who knew?

This incident reminds me of the following exchange:


“Are you the Judean People’s Front?”

“Fuck off! We’re the People’s Front of Judea!!!”

The speech was not without further controversy, as a Chinese protester interrupted Jintao’s speech by yelling for Bush to “stop him (Jintao) from killing.” She may just as well have been talking about Bush.

A Chinese protester plays “smell my finger” with the Secret Service.

The woman was arrested for disorderly conduct, and other more serious charges are being considered. I trust the irony of suppressing the speech of a Chinese national in the US while a Chinese leader is visiting isn't lost on a few others out there?

For his part, Jintao agreed to take questions, but only pre-approved ones. Apparently he and Bush are just like two snowpeas in a pod.

It's notable these incidents occurred despite months of careful planning for Jintao's visit. This should show both leaders - who each demand strict "control" over their people and environments - that human beings will always find a way to go off the script.

19 comments:

Bird said...

but there's a huge difference between the kind of "control" bush and his administration employs over the american people and the kind of control Hu exercises over the Chinese people.

the bush administration's pendulum of control has not swung as far as china's - nor will it - and it is already beginning to swing back.

the mix-up of country names is inexcusable. i wonder if it was purposeful.

Jack K. said...

bird, an interesting question.

Hellpig said...

you missed another major faux pa(however its spelled)

after the speeches Hu was walking off stage when Bush grabbed his sleave and pulled him back for a photo op.

very very disrespectful in chinese culture

fatty ~ said...

personally - its shows that Bush is a better autocrat.

Jinto has all protests supressed and removed for him wherever he goes in order to maintain control and the illusion of agreement.

Bush doesn't need all that - he manages the american people despite their freedom to protest =D

Pete Bogs said...

bird - I was merely stating that the two men don't like to answer real questions, and both frown upon dissent... I don't think we'll ever let Bush go as far as Hu...

hell - I've learned something new...

fatty - Bush is able to control things because his party has Congress, and they've got his back...

Pete Bogs said...

PS - am I the only one who thinks that while they should be able to remove people making a disturbance, they shouldn't be able to put their hands over your fucking mouth? that's too far... I would have bitten that bitch's fingers off...

jello said...

i can't believe that pic. akin to a black woman telling rosa parks to get in the back of the bus. appalling.

she could have lead her away without covering her mouth.

Pete Bogs said...

yeah, that's this country's persecuted minority muffling another country's persecuted minority... sad, and infuriating at the same time... escort troublemakers out by the arm, but don't touch their faces for Christ's sake!

Hellpig said...

Hu went to SA today and underminded everything that Bush tried to accomplish,thank god for Bill Gates at least that was a positive meeting for Hu in the USA hope he came away with a sense democracy is somewhat good.

Pete Bogs said...

Hu was no doubt jealous that Gates breaks the stereotype of the Asian computer genius... (I keed!)

Bill said...

I wonder if "Republic of China" is all that far off? Isn't a republic where the people are represented? Hu at least thinks he represents the people of China and so does Bush. Is Repulblic of China less accurate than Democracy of America. We probably have our termanology a little mixed up, don't know what the words mean.

Bill said...

Philosophers have warned about uncontrolled population more so in the past than now when it's a real problem. They were probably ahead of themselves during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries. That is the real problem facing China and India and in turn the entire world. The oil crisis is symptomatic of that. China dwarfs us in people and will soon do the same for automobiles. Is there enough oil for them and us too? Good question, don't you think? It's easy to be a human rights activist with a full stomach and a full tank of gas. Will $5 a gallon gas be good enough to wake us up or will we have to completely run out? Why are we in Iraq? Insuring human rights?

I wonder how we'll feel when the real crunch comes. That's within the next 25 years, just a heartbeat away. Perhaps we should be looking at what they, the Chinese are doing to stop that bubble, population from exploding. Don't worry, they won't make it totalitarian government or otherwise. Maybe if they prayed to God?

There's an ancient pot with the picture of the "Scorpion" king about to mace an oriental. You don't suppose they ate that fellow after he did it do you? Did you know that ancient people saw scorpions as cannibals. They also saw the asp snake that dines on other snakes as a cannibal. The Scorpion king is the oldest known Egyptian Pharaoh. He's the one that maced the oriental and alos chose the asp as his formal symbol.

Those who ignore history or warp it to fit their own arguments are doomed to repeat it. The Chinese outnumber us by more than 3 to 1. Who will be the eater and who will be the eatee? Isn't cannibalism a horrible thing to think about? Think about a little crop failure in the upper mid west brought about by no gas to run the tractors. Nah. That's too obvious. We're not seeing the real devil.

Take heart. Avian flu will thin people out more than a little and it will start where? Gas mask? Anyone? Jules Verns might have just hit upon something. High tech weapons wither in the face of the smallest critter there is.

Pete Bogs said...

bill - it was HG Wells who talked about the tiniest microbes taking mighty machines down... War Of The Worlds...

as for consumption, yes it's a very serious matter, and even more so in China... I have talked about how they execute people at the drop of a hat over there; they seem to be saying, "We have a population problem, so don't give us a reason to kill you!"

in the US, despite all the talk about alternative fuels, Bush & Co. are still best buddies with the oil companies... their hubristic existence will be the death of us all... no alternative, renewable, clean fuels because it hurts their profits... they need to adapt, like everyone else who is part of this planet's evolution... otherwise, we'll have no air to breath and no power to heat our homes...

thanks so much for stopping by...

Aunty Belle said...

Bawgs, baby, lemme run sompin' by ya'.

Youse right about executions in China-- for fear and cntrol of population. And Wednesday they was a House subcommittee meetin' while Hu was mewing...the testimony afore congress noted UN stats of forced abortions, sterilizations even to the point of dragging off a woman from Hong Kong who is not a Chinese citizen jes' because she was pregnant and already had two little one wif her visiting friends in Shanghai...

But about oil, sugar, now let's think outside the blue box a bit.

EVERY president, donkeys and elephants,since 1970s has followed the same PLAN no matter how different the rhetoric of the sake o'the masses.

The plan? Why it is simply this: Buy up all the oil that we can at whatever price...cause when it is gone from everywhere else on this orb, we'uns in the USA will still have a heap of it. Notice I done said BUY (not steal, we pay for Iraqi oil).

Petro-wars are the underlying reason for half the map drawin' going' on in the last 100 years. Imagine puddin' what this nation is goin' ter look like when we ain't got enough oil to keep them blue states warm or lit up when they winters bring dark at 4pm?? When the hosptials cain't run? When farm machines is as still as statues in the fallow fields and faminie is at yore door?

I promise you, ain't no blue boy gonna 'member his high toned imperatives to search for alternative fuels...

Now this heah is reality. We have the most shale oil, and it is expensive to get at...but wif 70dollar barrels we may be nearly there.. Russia has plenty, but it is so cold under siberia--meaning it takes heat (oil) jes' to git it out...a net gain too small to matter much, but what they is China is already suckin' on throw her pipeline.

Oh yeah, we's investigatin' other sources of power--but Teddy doan want no windmill in his Chappaquiddick ya' know? And granola greens doesn't want coal ..ya seein'?

Our leaders have to plan decades ahead, and they did--buy up all that can be bought so we have what we need in case of world cataclysms. Sounds self servin', but that is what we have. And jes' in case youse wonderin', all other nations do the same --they worry about they own first.

Notice how Russia and France had all they fingers in Saddam's oil-for-food pie, so NO WONDER they didn't want us to invade Iraq an' cut of they sugar daddy. Politics ain't about altruism, it ain't about
fairness. Looky, no nation that has a chance for hegemony is gonna pass it up--we'un's is the most likely to be the loosest and most benevolent--or youse can have yer Hu, and then you'll Cry.

Pete Bogs said...

screw Hu, I don't want him! it wasn't my intention to turn this into a red/blue thing... red is actually the most relevant, as Hu is a red... and so is Bush, but a different kind... we need to be more consistent with our relationships... Saddam was a "brutal dictator," but so is Hu... why is he the president's guest???

Aunty Belle said...

Well, thas' a reasonable inquiry--Hu is a tyrant, but marginally less so than Saddam, who is also insane.

I'd wager it's relative: Hu can--if he will-have inlfulence on Kim. And it may be a case of "hold your enemy close" but did'ja notice that the state dinner was of a lower protocol than, say, for Tony Blair? And we did let that woman in--she DID make her point...we might read somethin' thar between the lines.

Bill said...

Thanks for the correction pete. I get those two mixed up all the time. The term, "life's cheap" applies to most of the far east where there's been a population problem for a very long time. Pearl S Buck did write "The Good Earth" or am I having still another senior moment?

I made a liquid that ran my lawn mower over 40 years ago. The neighbors complained that my 'quipment stunk so I quit. A hydrocorbon liquid identical to gasoline can be extracted from tumble weed, a nuisance that grows profusely in spite of man's efforts to kill it off. The sun supplies enough energy to that goes un captured to supply all the energy needs of the earth. Energy is abundant but the oil companies are powerful. Yes indeed we have had an oil controlled direction of government since way back and it's both red and blue. There may be enough unharvested oil to last another thousand years. I don't know.

The population problem still rears it's ugly head. I can make food from coal and lime stone. But like my synthetic fuel, there's something about it that get's the neighbor's attention to say nothing of how it tastes. I'm an oddball of course. When I was a kid I didn't like my mother's cooking. "When you get hungary enough you'll eat it" she said and was right. No one wants an oil refinery in their back yard and no one wants to eat food pellets. Like mother said, when the tank is empty standards change.

Pete Bogs said...

bill - interesting about that stinky equipment... fossil fuels are no breath of fresh air, either... take a whiff from your car's tailpipe (don't, actually) or drive by those huge tanks just the other side of Staten Island in New Jersey, which I recall from my childhood as smelling like rotten eggs... then there's sulfur... whew!

bless you for trying!

Bill said...

I know this is about Hu and yes there is a little something else in his, the Chinese attitude about religion, defence. Have you had a look at this web site?

http://www.hoax-buster.org

It proves the Bible is a hoax. The proof is plenty good enough to declare all religion operators to be con men. The con is unlawful everywhere on earth. So the Chinese by outlawing religion are donig nothing new, just enforcing the law that is everywhere the same. It's a matter of acceptance of people's intrepretation of history. History as written is known and accepted to be nothing more than a consensus of opinions of those who wrote it.

Of course religion gets in the way of enforcing other Chinese laws like forced abortion as well as being a con game, faith in the con man based affair. When Mr Bush visited China the first, (only?) time he urged them to free missionaries they had jailed. When that was met with silecne he insisted. After he isnsited the reply was that it was unlawful to missionary in China. Some people want to make a lot of things unlawful right here. Laws like history are a consensus of opinion and not based upon absolutes are they not?