Thursday, April 06, 2006

Baghdadi Voters Have More Rights Than Big Easy Voters

Remember the joyous day when Iraqis voted with purple thumbs to elect their National Assembly? Iraqi expatriates and exiles living in the US were also permitted to vote here at special polling places.

New Orleans is set to hold a mayoral election later this month, and a federal court has ruled that the city’s hurricane-displaced residents, many of whom are still living in Houston or other cities, will not be allowed to vote at remote polling places (i.e. wherever they happen to be right now).

The displaced are primarily black, primarily poor and tend to vote Democrat, if at all.
A dispersed electorate, as they are now, is advantageous to Republicants as it dilutes the former's voting strength.

Some have suggested Republicants are looking to take advantage of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath to turn blue Louisiana (i.e. black and Democratic) into a red state.

The coming election could be the first step in that direction, as the displaced will lose their votes and their voices if nothing changes before April 22.

In addition to disenfranchisement, some bureaucrat deciding
not to rebuild neighborhoods that those displaced Democratic voters lived in, giving them nowhere to return, would be a further blow. And I've heard talk.

Someone tell the president: Send troops into New Orleans to restore democracy ASAP! It's in trouble here at home, too.


Bird said...

Hmmmm...Republicans manipulating a vote? What a shocking surprise. (Which is not to say the Dems don't manipulate either - but typically, the Dems manipulate to INCLUDE more voters and the Repubs manipulate to EXCLUDE voters - yeah, I know, a big generalization and there will be calls for me to support my claim. ELECTION 2000 comes to mind right off the bat).

I've read and heard that rebuilding is going quite slowly in the depressed neighborhoods - and some nonprofits in N'Awlins are helping residents rebuild without permits.

Have you seen the new tourist commercials on tv (Fall in love with Louisiana ...all over again)? I wonder about that. Is the town reallly ready for tourists? I realize that brings money back into town but seems to me to be somewhat misleading - since i've become so jaded of late about the intellectual capacity of the average American Joe, I suspect many of us will think all is well in NA - after all -they're open for business again and look at all those wonderful hotels and restuarants and jazz clubs...

meanwhile, we've got how many displaced New Orleaneans?

oh, god bless Ammerikuh.

Pete Bogs said...

it's hard to imagine things back to normal there with so many people (bodies) still unaccounted for...

K9 said...

/bark bark bark

first of all, i think the ex-pats should vote whether they personally occupy their washed out homes or not. I don't agree with the courts decision. but before you go wailing on what the republicants might do:

(a point i have made before over at the poodles impossible fire)

black american NO citizens were trapped, for real, by the ultimate nanny state: 40 years of demon-cratic representation; which sought to keep them weak and deliver to themselves power. And poverty got worse. The people more hopeless, and expectant, even demanding of the very state that perpetuated this injustice. Katrina revealed the horrific truth of this. Who failed there in all honesty? the DEMS who represented them. One of the most corrupt city gov's in the nation. cops who walked off the job rather than protect the citizenry, or were busy looting themselves. Nagin is the poster boy of loser leadership.

Bogs we are talking about land below sea level! the sattelite imagery shows more and more of the delta washing away. are you seriously going to argue that it is prudent to build a life on this temporary ground? is it a requirement that the same mistake should be made twice? because the group affected may be black and poor does not change this reality.
it would be cheaper to give every displaced person a new house in a new area, still in louisianna if you like, than to try and restore what should not be.

K9 said...


Hellpig said...

Bogs it was the index finger not thumb of the Iraqi's.

Democretes should not worry about the vote,When the Illegal Aliens finish building N.O. they will infes..Settle there and swing the vote back to a blew state.

I guess the only good outcome will be that the present thieving mayor will be ousted.

Pete Bogs said...

k9, hell - I'm merely pointing out the disparity between the way Iraqi voters are treated here and American voters are treated here... and giving a possible explanation why, but I'm not much for conspiracy theories...

I don't think that's a viable living areas, as it stands... the whole below sea level thing is crazy... unless we take some lessons from the Dutch...

K9 said...

/bark bark bark

what? using our paws to plug up dykes?


Hellpig said...

Aren't DYKES self plugging?

K9 said...

/bark bark bark

howwwwwwwwwwwwl helly! yes they is.

btw bogs, as a part of my work avoidance program today i am wondering what birthday gift you bought for a buck forty. or did you intend to give the recipient the reciept to use as scratch paper?


Pete Bogs said...

k9 - I expected to get that question about the price... that was a DVD gift bag, so you slip the DVD in there instead of using traditional wrapping...

didn't you know, I only buy packs of gum for presents???

K9 said...

/bark bark bark

except for finchy who has a nice new feeder and probably 40 bucks worth of gourmet seed set aside for him and his lady! whats next? finchy's trip to club med? you softie! /soft grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

your wrist band gives me a good scam idea for my color xeroxing projects.........


ffff said...

Could the Dems make a fuss about this by getting bus loads of people and flying the democratic flag and taking them all down within striking distance to vote? Wouldn't that be great, like the 'feedom buses' of yesteryear.
Wonder how the Republicans would react to that being spread around the world.. the great democracy preventing those who wish to vote to do so.
So I am gathering you don't have 'postal' voting in the USA?

Pete Bogs said...

ali - there is postal voting now as always, but under these circumstances (people spread out over all 50 states, I understand, and some have had several addresses) it's supposedly a very complicated process for the voter and the elections office... I don't know if it's a residency thing, because you have to prove that you're eligible each time you vote, but the voters no longer actually have residences in N.O....

some candidates are actually going to campaign in surrounding states (for N.O. mayor!), but they admit they're having troubling focusing their efforts... people are scattered around... I think a vote bus would be spectacular!

Aunty Belle said...

Oh!! Hail-pig youse naughty but I'se laughing anyhow. !!

Looky, Bawgs, this is silly--the dang mayor is B.E. is a world class jerk, so's the hag of a governor....they's stooopid, lazy, dishonest and puppets dancing to other's strings.

But youse know that even heah in sunnyland folks ought not rebuild on the dang beach in the face of more hurricanes iffin' they's expecting us all to pony up the tax dollars for that hairbrained plan.

Looky one more time--Florida folks have more hurricanes and do a better job handling em', nobody crying over us!!! THe Nwalins' fiasco is a HOME GROWN local specialty. (And yeah, I gots folks there too--and we had eyewitness acoutns of how it went down.)

Pete Bogs said...

Aunt B - we can discuss the viability of New Orleans as a city and the efficacy of their local and state government in another post... in fact, I already have a few times... this is about giving the same voting options to American citizens as we do to Iraqis, who I feel were only given that right here because Bush could point to it as a "victory for democracy" when challenged about progress in Iraq... N.O. voters are of little political use to the powers that be, hence, no special consideration...

Aunty Belle said...

Bawgs, LOL....

honey, hows even a blueacrat goin' to be sure that any displaced voter WAS a voter in B.E.? I mean, chile, iffin' we cain't know who's a commin and who's a goin' or who's buy Loooie Vooton backpacks wif de gubmint issued plastic, we have no means o' being real real shur that the city fathers and mothers ain't paddin' and paddin and paddin' those voter rolls.

Hellpig said...
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Hellpig said...

A different view of natural disasters.
> North Dakota News

> This text is from a county emergency manager out in the western part of
> North Dakota state after the recent snow storm.


> Up here in the Northern Plains we just recovered from a Historic event ---
> may I even say a "Weather Event" of "Biblical Proportions" --- with a
> historic blizzard of up to 44" inches of snow and winds to 90 MPH that broke
> trees in half, knocked down utility poles, stranded hundreds of motorists in
> lethal snow banks, closed ALL roads, isolated scores of communities and cut
> power to 10's of thousands.

> FYI:

> George Bush did not come....

> FEMA did nothing....

> No one howled for the government...

> No one blamed the government;

> No one even uttered an expletive on TV...

> Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton did not visit;

> Our Mayors did not blame Bush or anyone else;

> Our Governor did not blame Bush or anyone else either;

> CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX, or NBC did not visit - or report on this category 5
> snow storm.

> Nobody demanded $2,000 debit cards.....

> No one asked for a FEMA Trailer House....

> No one looted...

> Nobody - I mean Nobody demanded the government do something;

> Nobody expected the government to do anything either.

> No Larry King;

> No Bill O'Rielly;

> No Oprah;

> No Chris Mathews;

> No Geraldo Rivera;

> No Shaun Penn;

> No Barbara Striesand;

> No Hollywood types to be found.

> And.................

> We just melted the snow for water.

> Sent out caravans of SUV's to pluck people out of snow engulfed cars.

> The truck drivers pulled people out of snow banks... and didn't ask for a penny!

> Local restaurants made food and the police and fire department delivered it to the snow bound families.

> Families took in the stranded people - total strangers.

> We Fired up wood stoves;

> Broke out coal oil lanterns or Coleman lanterns;

> We put on an extra layers of clothes because up here it is "Work or Die."

> We did not wait for some affirmative action government to get us out of
> a mess created by being immobilized by a welfare program that trades
> votes for 'sittin at home' checks.

> Even though a Category "5" blizzard of this scale has never fallen this
> early...we know it can happen and how to deal with it ourselves.

> "In my many travels, I have noticed that once one gets north of about 48
> degrees North Latitude, 90% most of the world's social problems evaporate."

> It does seem that way, at least to me.. I hope this gets passed on..
Maybe SOME people will get the message,
The world DOES NOT owe you a living.

I love that last line. The moral of this story, If you help your self you don't have time to blame others and you'll get things fixed much faster

Pete Bogs said...

show me a town that's half ruined, and 1000+ bodies and we'll call it even

Hellpig said...

Figures you still miss the point,oh well.

Hellpig said...

The point is under a dems leadership at both state and local levels failed to protect and save the people of N.O.

Yet under the same if not more devastating circumstances a state whose leaders are republicans,managed to survive a biblical storm without loss of life or the help of the federal government to bail them out.

Red state= self sufficient
Blue state= welfare inefficient

Pete Bogs said...

hell, you have entirely missed the point of this post, which was not to rehash the "who's at fault?" argument about Katrina... I did that in numerous posts last year... the point, again, was to show the inexplicable difference in how voters in two different areas have been treated... it was politically advantageous for the White House to have Iraqis here voting... since there's no political advantage to anyone, N.O. is not getting the same option... that's my suspicion, anyway... I don't know how else to explain it...